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By: Indie4K » Blog Archive » A look back at useful posts

Indie4K » Blog Archive » A look back at useful posts — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:16:02 +0000

[...] Response to Rian Johnson #1 [...]

By: Rian vs Red at FreshDV

Rian vs Red at FreshDV — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:06:14 +0000

[...] course, the Red faithful have been up in arms about this article, Indie4k has written three detailed responses so far, and I’m sure more will come. Johnson has responded to 1 and 2 so [...]

By: Rian

Rian — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 01:15:36 +0000

Hey Chris – happy to be engaging with you on the Red, this sort of friendly back and forth can only help advance the technology in the long run.

I’ve posted a rebuttal to your points in both your articles here:

http://www.rcjohnso.com/redbuttal.html

I’ll just reiterate that we’re not saying Red is a bad camera, in fact for the price we agree it’s a very good camera. Our one and only point is to refute the notion that Red is the equal of or better than top end digital cinema cameras.

cheers, Rian Johnson

By: Indie4K » Blog Archive » Response to Rian Johnson #2

Indie4K » Blog Archive » Response to Rian Johnson #2 — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:08:59 +0000

[...] See part one of this post here. [...]

By: Rob

Rob — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:00:38 +0000

How cares? If you like the image then it's good enough. Sure, Red hypes their camera ... all the manufactures do that. Perhaps because I have an EE degree and design electronics equipment I recognized this right off. Like Brent said, Red is revolutionary because of it's price/value ratio. Even if the F23 or Genesis is twice the camera, Red wins that comparison.

I also like the component approach they took, too. I can bolt on things using standard hardware.

Peace,

Rob:-]

"TANSTAAFL - There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch", from "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Robert A. Heinlein

By: Brent Altomare

Brent Altomare — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 05:57:39 +0000

The other thing that I find interesting about this whole argument that seems to be missing from Mr. Johnson's thinking is that he's comparing cameras that cost somewhere in the range of 10x what the RED costs. If you're going to start adding zeros to the price of something, you'd better be sure there is NO QUESTION that it's better than the competition.

After reading his article, here's what I heard: "My $200,000 camera is slightly better than your $20,000 camera! At least it is when used for a very specific purpose."

By: The Editblog » The RED debate rages on

The Editblog » The RED debate rages on — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:01:06 +0000

[...] Indie4K has posted an article that is a response to a very detailed paper written by Rian Johnson titled Red Facts: straight talk on the technical realities of the Red camera. It’s a 23 page monster that goes into way more technical detail than many may want to know. It baits in the reader with this headline: [...]